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#16 2009-10-19 23:10:48

Feathers
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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

Wow those cornish are BIG!! We butchered most of our roosters and they are about the same or bigger then the rooster in the picture. Our setup is much tinier. Only one killing cone (that my dad made) and a piece of plywood on straw bales. And the most we did in a day was 5! i like those PVC cutters. Better then trying to find a joint with a knife or hacking away with a hatchet.


Cutting down for winter to: White Chanteclers, Buckeyes and White Plymouth Rocks

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#17 2009-10-19 23:47:07

BuffOrpsgirl
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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

Okay, that is just sad - the difference between the Cornish roaster and the rooster. I am almost afraid to think of what my 20 week old Brahmas and Dark Cornish will look like without feathers. They ate like little pigs, had a great summer running around, and that is all we are going to get???? :tantrum:     Thank goodness we didn't plan on selling any this year. It would be too embarrassing.

I do hope that my Bourbons look a little plumper at Xmas. They are only about 12 pounds now. Maybe I should stop the free ranging exercise so they can fatten up?  :banginghead:

That is a great set up Jayme. It looks efficient and fast.

Is there a butchering 101 course anywhere?


Hope to breed in 2010 Speckled Sussex, Buff Orpingtons, Light Sussex, & Bourbon Reds.

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#18 2009-10-20 00:58:10

Margret
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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

We just did 6 roosters today -5 for tomorrow were done by noon. Our method is the old fahioned axe and knife and is quite sufficent for the small # we we have but that is a really niceset up if you have a large # of birds. Our roos weighed out at the 4.5 lbs dressed but they were some we hatched in June so feel they did okay--- it is more than a meal for us.
Must say your end result looks very like a poulty processor job , lovely, well done.

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#19 2009-10-20 01:53:43

Hidden River
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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

Roosters do serve their purpose here. We keep the legs, thighs, wings and breast meat. Package 1 1/2 birds per bag and it is a good meal. I just wanted to show everyone that roosters will never amount to the cornish, but if you prefer not to have birds with issues like leg problems and heart problems then roosters will fit the bill. They are just not as pretty packaged up like the "Store looking" birds.


Breeding for 2009
Silver Laced, Blue Laced Red, and Gold Laced Wyandottes, Black Australorps, Ameraucana (Easter eggers), Speckled Sussex, Barred Rock, Rhode Island Reds, Blue Cochin, Black and Exchequer Leghorn, Buff Orpington, Salmon Faverolle. Pilgrim Geese, White and Brown Chinese Geese, Saxony, Rouen, Chocolate and Blue Muscovy Ducks, Call and Australian Spotted Ducks.

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#20 2009-10-20 18:18:59

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

Hi Jayme,

I think that it was an extremely educational picture. I have read often about the difference between the Cornish and the heritage beirds re size, feed conversion, etc, but really had no idea of it in my head until I saw the picture. Between the picture and the cost of organic feed for the roosters I am seriously considering what I will raise for meat birds. There is a cross out there I think that is about 4 weeks slower to mature than the Cornish X.
Does anyone have any experience with that one???


Hope to breed in 2010 Speckled Sussex, Buff Orpingtons, Light Sussex, & Bourbon Reds.

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#21 2009-10-20 18:27:36

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

Generally the Cornish Giants are the faster birds, and the cornish crosses are a bit slower to mature but have less problems. We only lost 6 of 100 meat birds to natural causes (2 others were runts that we did away with and the other 3 were victims to our cat).
We feed them starter for 2 weeks, grower for 2 1/2 weeks and then a grain ration mixed with finisher for the remaining weeks, they are also out on grass in their chicken tractor and moved daily for the first couple weeks then twice daily for the last couple when they really start getting messy. It works very well, they are very healthy birds and this last batch grew very even. We had a few woppers at 8 lbs and a few smaller at the 5 1/2 lbs but mostly they averaged around the 6-6 1/2 lb range at 10 weeks old. (We did 20 larger ones at 8 weeks that were 6 lbs).
The broilers are on a natural light schedule and we never take their food away, seems to work well for them.


Breeding for 2009
Silver Laced, Blue Laced Red, and Gold Laced Wyandottes, Black Australorps, Ameraucana (Easter eggers), Speckled Sussex, Barred Rock, Rhode Island Reds, Blue Cochin, Black and Exchequer Leghorn, Buff Orpington, Salmon Faverolle. Pilgrim Geese, White and Brown Chinese Geese, Saxony, Rouen, Chocolate and Blue Muscovy Ducks, Call and Australian Spotted Ducks.

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#22 2009-10-20 19:18:51

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

When my Dad was alive, we kept Cornish Cross from Rochester.  Dad did not allow them to sit inside all day, he shooed them out with his cane to the chicken yard (about 40 x 60 ft planted to barley)  In no time at all they began acting like real chickens, eating grass, dusting in the dirt and even running around a bit.  Seems they just needed prodding.  They were really good meat birds, dressed out from 51/2 to 7 lbs.  Lost very few to heart attack and no bad legs at all.  Would raise them again if I were home instead of at work.


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#23 2009-10-22 02:11:05

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

I find that last picture VERY interesting.   Are there any heritage birds where the Rooster even approaches the weight of a cornish?  No wonder our heritage breeds are dying out.  Nothing can compare to that weight difference.  It makes half the heritage breeds we produce almost useless.  Unless I have a Japanese chicken sexer working for me, why should I feed half my chickens who will turn out to be roos all that food for such little gain in muscle mass.

Sue


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#24 2009-10-22 04:37:22

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

Excellent comparison pic of a meat bird, Cornish, compared to "an extra rooster" thanks. We had 102 cornish giants and we butchered 97 in total.

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#25 2009-10-23 20:08:51

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

LOL, Jayme when you emailed me that day I thought you were doing in your lovely aussie ducks...for a few seconds i was VERY confused, LOL!

Prairie we did our roosters for the first time (well, paid someone else to).  Heritage breed, they ended up about 6 lbs dressed.  Legs are nice and there is enough breast.  They can't compare but waste not want not.  I haven't tried roasting one yet..just crock pot and souped it.


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#26 2009-11-05 15:40:21

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

okay, i have a silly question  :confused:  how do you get their legs all nicely tucked in like that???  i couldnt for the life of me get my turkey's legs all in, so they look a little silly in their bags...

and are those the giants or the crosses?

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#27 2009-11-05 16:01:01

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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

ranchcookie wrote:

okay, i have a silly question  :confused:  how do you get their legs all nicely tucked in like that???  i couldnt for the life of me get my turkey's legs all in, so they look a little silly in their bags...

and are those the giants or the crosses?

I'd like to hear that too, my turkey legs were so long I had the most horrible time to try and wrap the birds up, oh brother.  Have a wonderful day, CynthiaM.


Aspiration of breeding the small flocks that I have, all standard size -- Light Brahma, Blue Cochin, two Easter Eggers, both with muffs and beards, the pullet a single comb, the cockeral a rose comb), Buff Orpington, Silver Laced and Gold Laced Wyandottes, 4 Barred Rocks, the cockeral gone now cause he was so mean, one Australorpe pullet and a dog that is cross Dalmation and Rottweiler

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#28 2009-11-05 16:34:56

Hidden River
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Re: Butchered the last of them (pictures)

When you butcher turkeys (I have heard, never butchered them before), you actually cut their skin different for cleaning, so as to leave an area to "tuck" the feed into. Basically you slice the skin horizontally (as opposed to chickens we cut vertically), then make another slice after cleaning for the legs to stick into and then out the hole side again. Keeps them tucked in reall nicely.
With the cornish they are compact birds with small compact legs, so when they are put in the bags and then air sucked out it pulls them in nicely and with no air left in the bags they stay tucked in and freeze that way.
Another thing my FIL has done with turkeys is actually buy string from the butchers and ties the legs together before bagging them.
The birds we raise are called Cornish Rock Cross, so no they are not the giants, but have great feed conversion and we normally butcher at 8 weeks of age.


Breeding for 2009
Silver Laced, Blue Laced Red, and Gold Laced Wyandottes, Black Australorps, Ameraucana (Easter eggers), Speckled Sussex, Barred Rock, Rhode Island Reds, Blue Cochin, Black and Exchequer Leghorn, Buff Orpington, Salmon Faverolle. Pilgrim Geese, White and Brown Chinese Geese, Saxony, Rouen, Chocolate and Blue Muscovy Ducks, Call and Australian Spotted Ducks.

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